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Pakistani president Asif Zardari admits creating terrorist groups

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Pakistan's president has admitted his country created terrorist groups to help achieve its foreign policy goals.

Asif Zardari told a meeting of former senior civil servants in Islamabad, it was time to be honest about their deployment.

"Let us be truthful to ourselves and make a candid admission of the realities," he said. "The terrorists of today were the heroes of yesteryears until 9/11 occurred and they began to haunt us as well."

These groups were not thrown up because of government weakness, but as a matter of policy. He said they were deliberately "created and nurtured" as a policy to achieve some short-term tactical objectives.
His comments amount to an admission that Pakistan trained Islamic terrorists to launch attacks on India as part of its long war over its claim on Kashmir.

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{"commentId":8153946,"authorDomain":"hotspice"}

Nothing new. India has known this for many decades.
I hope Obama has read this news and understands the implications of his support to pakistan.

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Reply#1 - Sat Jul 11, 2009 7:13 AM EDT
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Pakistan's Kashmir history is an integral part of its foreign policy and military policy. In order to understand Pakistan's relationship to the war on terror and with Islamist groups, it is important to factor in Pakistan's interest in Kashmir. Kashmir's contentious existence has made it home to militant groups who have used terrorist tactics as part of a drive for an independent Kashmir, as well as others with pro-Pakistani views.

Read more here.

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Reply#2 - Sat Jul 11, 2009 7:16 AM EDT
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1947 - Kashmir was always a part of India, In 1947, the regional ruler of Kashmir, Hari Singh acceded Kashmir to India, after attack by newly formed Pakistan. In my opinion the root of the problem in Kashmir is terrorism, the Islamic terrorist ideology is what fuels ...

Read more here.

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Reply#3 - Sat Jul 11, 2009 7:17 AM EDT
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This what the terrorists did : they murdered Hindus. This is the pakistani policy Zardari is talking about.

The terrorist violence that has ravaged the State of Jammu and Kashmir for the last four years is the culmination of the long secessionist movement carried on by the fundamentalist forces in Kashmir since 1947, and overtly and covertly supported by the Pakistan. Terrorism in Kashmir is a Muslim religious crusade aimed at the secession of the State from the Republic of India and its merger with Pakistan. It is founded on an ideological struggle of which the main tenets are
i. That Kashmir which has a majority Muslim population should become a part of Pakistan on the basis of religion;
ii. That all institutions which stand for secularism and democracy are destroyed and all individuals or groups that vouch for equality, justice and religious tolerance are eliminated;
iii. That the rich cultural traditions of Kashmir hallowed over more than five thousand years of the history be demolished and replaced by Islamic fundamentalism. Read more here.

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Reply#4 - Sat Jul 11, 2009 7:21 AM EDT
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Despite this admission of Zardari, pakistan still operates terrorist camps. 42 camps have been identified recently.

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Reply#5 - Sat Jul 11, 2009 7:23 AM EDT
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And this policy of pakistan, about creating terrorists out of people has been extended to schools. Read an account of how hate and contorted history is taught in pakistani schools.

and another story about pakistani schools teaching hate.

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Reply#6 - Sat Jul 11, 2009 7:27 AM EDT
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Reply#7 - Sat Jul 11, 2009 7:32 AM EDT
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Reply#8 - Sat Jul 11, 2009 7:34 AM EDT
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And the insane pakistani media has always been blaming India for all the terrorism in pakistan. Read this insane news from a pakistani media.

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  • 2 votes
Reply#9 - Sat Jul 11, 2009 7:45 AM EDT
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I count 8 post on this article and all by you, hotspice. What would you have the American government do? Should we now, since the obvious has been revealed, Cut off all aid to Pakistan, extend the limits of our armed forces to all parts of Pakistan, or just go in and bomb the hell out of em and get Kashmir at the same time? Maybe the admission of the realities means that Zardari is sincerely going to try to make a change. Political change in a long hard process sincere or not. We right now we have a military agenda in Afganistan which includes working with Pakistan. To reach our objectives we must continue our present course and hope things will change inside Pakistan.

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  • 2 votes
Reply#10 - Sat Jul 11, 2009 7:54 AM EDT
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tweedledumb:

Why should India face the US funded pakistani terrorism?

When it suited US, it created al qaeda, taliban, and the jihadis. Now when it doesn't suit US, US still wants India to face the monster; despite the fact, and known to US that these terrorists were killing Hindus in Kashmir.

The admission by Zardari does not absolve pakistan of the killing and maiming of Indians. Nor does it stop killings and infiltration by pakistani terrorists in India.

Will US behave responsibly? Why did US drop conditions on doles to pakistan, conditions that would force pakistan to stop terrorists activities against India?

Do you know that the US aid to pakistan was used by pakistan for arming its own military, terrorists and building nuclear capabilities (second strike).

India shares a border with pakistan. While US has been in this region plainly to keep its influence.

India does not any more accept killing of its citizens by terrorists funded by US.

And after all this, Obama wants India to discuss and negotiate with pakistan.

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  • 3 votes
#10.1 - Sat Jul 11, 2009 8:56 AM EDT
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Also, read an analysis on pakistan being a threat to the world.

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  • 2 votes
#10.2 - Sat Jul 11, 2009 9:09 AM EDT
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{"commentId":8154508,"authorDomain":"hotspice"}

Read pakistani media response to attack on mumbai on 26 Nov 2008.

How facts can be twisted and truth dumped.

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  • 2 votes
Reply#11 - Sat Jul 11, 2009 9:03 AM EDT
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I feel about Kashmir much like I feel about the Holy Land: both sides are such petulant whiners that perhaps the best thing to do is evacuate the populace and nuke the ground down to the bedrock so that no one can live there for the next thousand years. Perhaps over the intervening millennium both sides would grow the @!$%# up.

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  • 1 vote
Reply#12 - Sat Jul 11, 2009 9:12 AM EDT
{"commentId":8160350,"authorDomain":"hotspice"}

and here is the effect of Zardari's admission :

Huge quantity of arms and explosives recovered in J&K

Sat, Jul 11 09:53 PM

Jammu, Jul 11 (PTI) Security forces have busted four militant hideouts and recovered huge quantity of arms and ammunition from Ramban and Rajouri districts of Jammu and Kashmir in the past two days, officials said here today. A militant hideout was busted in Tarala forest in Keri area of Rajouri district during search operation by security personnel today, who recovered two universal machine guns, four rocket propelled guns, six mortar bombs and eight hand grenades from there.

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  • 2 votes
Reply#13 - Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:55 PM EDT
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pakistan is reaping what is has sown. They have only themselves, and their saudi subsidizers of their madrassa hate schools, to blame for their growing, bloody disintegration.

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  • 1 vote
Reply#14 - Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:05 AM EDT
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